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Published on November 10, 2012 By Frogboy In Elemental Dev Journals

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Very soon we plan to release the very first Map Pack for Elemental: Fallen Enchantress.  In addition to a new hand crafted map for every map size along with new stamps to spice up random map generation, it also includes the full Anthys map. A gigantic map that contains the entire known world of Elemental (at least, as of ~150 AC).


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on Nov 11, 2012

Naidrev
So... wait... This is DLC? We have to pay extra for this? I assumed it was making up for the fact that there are only 6 or so maps included with the game, and thus was free.

They already gave the game away for free to some people, don't need to give content too. I want this company to make money so they will keep making more great content. If you just keep getting stuff for free it means they will go bankrupt and you will never get anything from them again.

on Nov 11, 2012

MutantDwarf
Heh, I rather like the difference between the reactions in this thread (where you're actually showing stuff off) and the '2 Weeks' thread where you announced the map pack. Very, very different tones.

 

Very very different audiences. The other thread draws all the FE players, this one just  mostly draws the ones with an interest in the map pack.

on Nov 11, 2012

Okay, I retract my statement about not being as interested in map packs -- I'll definitely purchase this DLC.

on Nov 11, 2012

Cruxador
When you say this map is gigantic, how big are we talking?

Also, are larger sizes for randomly generated maps a thing that can happen?

I'm not sure how big it is exactly.  But it's bigger than any map I've ever seen in WOM or FE.  If you don't have a 64-bit system, it might be tricky.  I've been trying to find ways to shave down texture sizes and other tricks this weekend for 32-bit users but the size of this map is just..well mind boggling.

on Nov 11, 2012

Fb, will you press for multiplayer DLC if I buy this one?

on Nov 11, 2012

frogboy, how about two versions of the dlc, one shaved down in size for the 32 bit crowd, and one enlarged for the 64 bit crowd?

personally I would prefer the 64 bit

harpo

on Nov 11, 2012

Sentinemodo
Fb, will you press for multiplayer DLC if I buy this one?

 

Please please, kind Froggie.

on Nov 11, 2012

NorsemanViking

Quoting Sentinemodo, reply 51Fb, will you press for multiplayer DLC if I buy this one?

 

Please please, kind Froggie.

I'll buy two of 'em if don't do any MP!

on Nov 11, 2012

Hmmm, missed the part about how this has a $5 cost....Not sure about that.

 

Theres the well,its only $5 angle,and yes thats almost an inconsequential amount......BUT then theres that i essentially bought this game like 2 years ago under its first incarnation,and it was so broken you told me id get the next incarnation for free if i hung in there (paraphrased)....and now here we are and your asking me for $5 for "official " premade maps.......that youve decided are NOT part of the deal.

IF i give you $5 for the maps,am i not still rewarding you for not providing me with a solid product 2 years ago ?

Or did i miss how this was covered under the original purchase as well as having originally missed the $5 information ?

If i remember correctly,the original preorder for the first incarnation came with an in game item, that is NOT part of the new incarnation of the game.Id gladly consider this map pack as the replacement for that item.

on Nov 11, 2012

Hmmm, missed the part about how this has a $5 cost....Not sure about that.

 

Theres the well,its only $5 angle,and yes thats almost an inconsequential amount......BUT then theres that i essentially bought this game like 2 years ago under its first incarnation,and it was so broken you told me id get the next incarnation for free if i hung in there (paraphrased)....and now here we are and your asking me for $5 for "official " premade maps.......that youve decided are NOT part of the deal.

IF i give you $5 for the maps,am i not still rewarding you for not providing me with a solid product 2 years ago ?

Or did i miss how this was covered under the original purchase as well as having originally missed the $5 information ?

If i remember correctly,the original preorder for the first incarnation came with an in game item, that is NOT part of the new incarnation of the game.Id gladly consider this map pack as the replacement for that item.

You're overthinking it, man. You bought a game (as did I), which turned out to suck, and Stardock said - we're sorry about that, here, have another game for free, this one's better. They didn't have to do that and most game studios wouldn't, they don't owe you or I anything, it was purely out of the goodness of their hearts / in order to maintain their good reputation with their fans (take your pick depending on how cynical you are ).

That's done, okay. This is something extra and separate they did just to gauge the interest in DLC, it has nothing to do with WoM, treat it as a separate transaction. Either the maps are worth $5 to you or they aren't, that's what Stardock is trying to learn here. Personally: okay, I give in, that full Anthys map is worth the $5 to me. You can only do an awesome huge map of the whole world rooted in the lore once though, I hope the next DLC has more than maps - a new faction(s) with new models, special units, and/or faction/unit traits to go with maybe? There has been a lot of complaining about diversity and such.

on Nov 11, 2012

I'm glad someone explained what stamps are. I'm definitely going to pick this up!

on Nov 11, 2012

Wizaerd
Quoting NorsemanViking, reply 52 Quoting Sentinemodo, reply 51Fb, will you press for multiplayer DLC if I buy this one?

Please please, kind Froggie.
I'll buy two of 'em if don't do any MP!

Yes, because the game allowing us to play with our friends would inconvenience you Wizaerd. 

Though if an MP will be part of a DLC at some point.. I'd personally prefer it be like the single player experience. AI phase, player A(B,C,E, etc).

 

Hmmm, missed the part about how this has a $5 cost....Not sure about that.

 

Theres the well,its only $5 angle,and yes thats almost an inconsequential amount......BUT then theres that i essentially bought this game like 2 years ago under its first incarnation,and it was so broken you told me id get the next incarnation for free if i hung in there (paraphrased)....and now here we are and your asking me for $5 for "official " premade maps.......that youve decided are NOT part of the deal.

IF i give you $5 for the maps,am i not still rewarding you for not providing me with a solid product 2 years ago ?

Or did i miss how this was covered under the original purchase as well as having originally missed the $5 information ?

If i remember correctly,the original preorder for the first incarnation came with an in game item, that is NOT part of the new incarnation of the game.Id gladly consider this map pack as the replacement for that item.

 

The price behind DLC is justified as it is time they (Stardock, or whomever really) are spending time to create something that is not a core component to the game. It can be played and enjoyed with or without. So you are paying for the convenience of not having to go in by hand and build the cool stamps and maps yourself.

 

on Nov 11, 2012

Rath3130

Quoting Wizaerd, reply 53Quoting NorsemanViking, reply 52 Quoting Sentinemodo, reply 51Fb, will you press for multiplayer DLC if I buy this one?

Please please, kind Froggie.
I'll buy two of 'em if don't do any MP!

Yes, because the game allowing us to play with our friends would inconvenience you Wizaerd. 

 

It would, because it would reallocate development effort, time, and resources from the SP to MP, all for a very small percentage of players.  So yes, it would greatly inconvienence me.

on Nov 11, 2012

Wizaerd
It would, because it would reallocate development effort, time, and resources from the SP to MP, all for a very small percentage of players.  So yes, it would greatly inconvienence me.

I support this unpopular opinion. Brad has explained many times how much effort, ie time and money it takes to create a multiplayer component for a game, and then there's only very few people using it, and most of them only a couple of times. It really would affect future improvements to the single player experience. And then, with multiplayer, there would be even more whining about balance...

on Nov 11, 2012

Count me in. Was initially sceptical about a map pack but the big map sold it for me.

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