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The Internet is toxic, but its toxicity is usually equal opportunity

One of the more annoying trends in our society has been the substitution of action with rhetoric.  This has really taken off in the age of Twitter where people think hashtags are a replacement for actually doing something.

Today I read an Opinion Piece on Polygon called “No Skin thick enough: The daily harassment of women in the game industry”  by a woman named Brianna Wu. It's an article I recommend checking out.

However, I do have some criticisms of the piece. For starters, it is a bad piece of journalism. It relies completely on sensationalist emotionalism to back up its blanket assertion (“the daily harassment of women in the game industry”). 

Such articles, even opinion pieces, are apparently not open to discussion.  As soon as I expressed some criticism on Twitter the haters came out in force. All sense of reason evaporated.  My criticism was: Be aware that sometimes allegations of sexual harassment are false (remember what happened to me). Sometimes, some women choose to take criticism/teasing/abuse as being due to their sex. 

Let me give you the part from the article that caused me to write my tweet in the first place. 

This is the example Ms. Wu provides as an example of sexual harassment women face:

Two things to point out about this: First, anonymous user (which is one of the sources of why Internet discussion can get so toxic) and second, while clearly abusive, this has nothing to do with the writer being female.  I have gotten tweets to me very similar to this when I've made a casual tweet regarding a game console. Ask Phil Fish about internet abuse. Trolls will cater their trolling to their target.

The point of my tweet is that we need to be careful on this because *sometimes* the allegation that it's *sexual* harassment is false. 

The article provides 4 such anecdotes. The Internet has plenty of vile behavior that many of us run into regularly. But this article tries to make sweeping conclusions with it. I take issue with articles that make sweeping (and arguably sexist) charges against men using 4 anecdotes as evidence.

If we were debating any other topic and someone made a broad, far reaching claim and backed it up with nothing more than 4 anecdotal examples they’d get reamed.  But because we are talking about an ism, it is taboo to raise any skepticism about the article’s agenda.

I’ve been in the game industry a long time. I’ve seen its ugliness in many different forms. So let me tell you: This subject matter is delicate and should be treated as such. 

So let's look at the responses I got when I tweeted that women sometimes make false claims of "sexual harassment" when in fact what they received had nothing to do with their sex:

To which I respond:

Which gets:

Buzzfeed's Nicol Leffel goes right to name-calling almost immediately.

Ugh. There were much more vile responses than these but I blocked them and now I can't find them on twitter.  The point being, even attempting to discuss the topic invites assumptions of sexism and abuse.

There IS misogyny in the game industry but not where the professional victims would have you believe

The misogyny I've seen in our industry is not representative of game culture in general but is a manifestation of Internet toxicity. Let's start with the sexist reaction successful women in the game industry often receive. When a man does something impressive and gets some publicity, they get kudos and support.  But if a woman does something impressive and gets the same publicity, their experience is likely to be terrible and humiliating.  I’ve seen this first hand and it’s discouraging.  But it would be wrong to imply that this is a general issue. Internet culture is toxic.  

...But we have to be careful that this issue isn't exploited by opportunistic people to for professional or personal gain.

I have first hand experience with this. Those of you who know me know the hell I went through when I was falsely accused of "sexual harassment" by a former, opportunistic employee who was hoping for a quick pay off.  

Let me say it plainly: There are women who will exploit this delicate topic for financial or professional gain. Maybe they’re “journalists” who know it’s a quick, easy way to get their article published on Kotaku. Maybe it’s a former journalist whose just gotten into the game industry who wants her upcoming project to get coverage. Or maybe it’s a young woman mad at her boss who wants to exploit the issue to make money. And of course, maybe it’s a legitimate reporting on a serious problem. But sorry, I’m a skeptic now. I didn’t use to be such a skeptic but 2 years of unwarranted smears and death threats have made me take these claims with a grain of salt.

So what can we do?

I’m an engineer, I’m interested in solutions and I think there is a lot we can do to address this issue:

  1. Punish people who harass other people. I.e. Permanently ban someone who writes the kind of disgusting invective that the article cites.  XBox Live and other services allow for an immense level of abuse of all kinds. Don’t tolerate it anymore.
     
  2. Eliminate anonymous profiles on social networks like Xbox Live, Twitter, YouTube. Game sites could eliminate comment anonymity if they were genuinely concerned about this issue.  Anonymity has a place on the net -- forums, groups, etc.  But mainstream social networking should not be anonymous. Maybe it's not doable but as long as it is, trolls will be able to exploit this.
     (I've changed my mind on #2)

  3. Encourage / Reward those who actually DO something. The reason “white knighting” is despised is because it’s really about people making themselves feel good about themselves.   Less rewarding of progressive rhetoric and more reward of progressive action.
     
  4. Encourage people to talk about the transformative effects of a more diversified working environment. We hire a lot of women because it makes our products better. Not because women are “just as good” as men but rather because men and women bring unique strengths.

    Running a company dominated by one sex puts them at a distinct disadvantage in the talent area.  Men and women are different.  Here’s a “sexist” statement: It has been my experience that women are better at UI design than men. I have no idea why. That’s 20 years of observation talking. Men tend to be better at debugging. No idea why. Don’t care. Both seem to be equally effective at writing buggy code.

     
  5. Scrutinize and punish those who make false claims on this topic. We need to be very very careful about tarring and feathering people on this issue. Don’t reward those who are trying to profit from playing the sexism card.

Choose to be part of the solution: Do your part to make the Internet a less toxic environment. Don’t just blindly support empty, feel good pap. Keep your critical thinking cap on.

Update: Slashdot comments are very interesting and in stark contrast to the empty progressive rhetoric on Twitter. http://games-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/07/22/229256/the-daily-harassment-of-women-in-the-game-industry

Update 2: Added more content, added item #2 regarding anonymity. Fixed Typos. (see edit history).

Update 3: Added pics from Twitter.

Update 4: Typos, streamlined.

Update 5: Crossed out item 2. I've been persuaded that it's a bad idea. 


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on Jul 22, 2014

Remember Angie Gallant? The women who smeared your book because her nutty husband got banned for stalking you?

She writes:

So says the Judger of Nipples, Arbiter of their Television Worthiness.

Can you speak to the "Nipples on TV" thing? I've read about it. Are you allowed to talk about it?

on Jul 22, 2014

Can you speak to the "Nipples on TV" thing? I've read about it. Are you allowed to talk about it?

Oh I'm under no "gag" order.  I've been free to talk about that case in an unlimited way (and I insisted that she be able to do so too because I would be delighted if both sides of that situation were made public instead of her false, inflammatory statements) since her case was dismissed with prejudice.

But of course, the media has been curiously uninterested in covering our victory in the case.  They were all over painting me out to be a monster. But when we won, silence and excuses.

Anyway, the nipple thing.

Here's the whole story (collaborated by MULTIPLE female witnesses in deposition -- not that that part came out in any media account):

She was scheduled to go on XPlay to demonstrate one of our games. But she had a real issue with Xplay because of how they portrayed women. She repeated discussed how she watched an episode where she could see Olivia Mund's nipples on TV.  She and I kind of ridiculed the way XPlay was objectifying women.

Anyway, a minute later, she asks me, "Come on Brad, do I have to go on Xplay? Can't you do the demo instead?" and I responded "But your nipples look better on TV than mine do!"  It was all part of a running joke about XPlay's presentation of women that we *both* were part of and laughed about.

Think about how many jokes or sarcastic quips you make a given day. Now, imagine all tone or context being taken out and imagine how a cynical media or Internet jerks could use those quotes.

on Jul 22, 2014

Olivia Munn was never on X-Play.

on Jul 22, 2014

Brad, reading your posts here, I understand where you're coming from and the nuance you bring to the topic, but your Twitter response was fairly thoughtless. One of the, if not the #1, criticism/annoyance with discussions on sexism, racism, etc. is that privileged groups often blunder into those discussions with the attempt to frequently de-rail the topic and steer it back to them. For example, on racism "Yeah, but reverse-racism is a thing too!!" for example. Your first reaction/response was to direct the topic back to you personally and cast doubt on the veracity of the issue. People freaking out with vitriol at that isn't necessarily just a response to your comment, but rather to the cumulative effect of comments like yours being the go-to response from people not in that group on a fairly regular basis. I'm saying this as a white male myself - just trying to give you some perspective on how this gets viewed. Like I said, I understand this wasn't necessarily your intention, but, that's the way it comes across, and the short burst nature of Twitter is not really conducive either to these discussions.

on Jul 22, 2014

Gazornenplatz

Olivia Munn was never on X-Play.

Some G4 show. I don't remember which G4. I assumed Xplay.

on Jul 22, 2014

Ekko_Tek

Brad, reading your posts here, I understand where you're coming from and the nuance you bring to the topic, but your Twitter response was fairly thoughtless. One of the, if not the #1, criticism/annoyance with discussions on sexism, racism, etc. is that privileged groups often blunder into those discussions with the attempt to frequently de-rail the topic and steer it back to them. For example, on racism "Yeah, but reverse-racism is a thing too!!" for example. Your first reaction/response was to direct the topic back to you personally and cast doubt on the veracity of the issue. People freaking out with vitriol at that isn't necessarily just a response to your comment, but rather to the cumulative effect of comments like yours being the go-to response from people not in that group on a fairly regular basis. I'm saying this as a white male myself - just trying to give you some perspective on how this gets viewed. Like I said, I understand this wasn't necessarily your intention, but, that's the way it comes across, and the short burst nature of Twitter is not really conducive either to these discussions.

I am sure that I am the most tone deaf person out there. 

The intent was to respond to Jeff Green, my friend. Others chose to join in.  I agree, Twitter is an imperfect tool for such discussions.  I just found the whole article exploitive of an important issue. Part of my issue has to do with knowing the various media sites and many of the studios.

That said, having been shit on about an issue where the allegations against me were with either completely made up or taken so out of context and then reading the article I can say that the abuse I took during that time makes what appeared in that article look like a walk in the park.

I had people posting my home address and saying that someone should come to my house and teach me a lesson one dark knight.  I had Google maps pictures of my homoe with a skull and gross bones pictured.  The email I received, in the hundreds a week, for months after the story hit are things that you can't easily set aside.  And for what? If the allegations made against me had been even 25% true, then sure, I say I deserved it.  But I didn't send "purity tests" out as suggested or make random nipples comments or ask about bras or anything like that. 

So no, I won't be letting this issue go. Ever.  As long as jack asses like Charles Randall and his ilk want to libel me on the net I'll happily and enthusiastically respond.

on Jul 22, 2014

Olivia Munn was on Attack of the Show, which certainly did have questionable portrayals of women on it. They didn't do videogame demos, though, so I don't know why her objections would have led to an agreement between the two of you about the objectification of women on a show you wouldn't have ever been on.

on Jul 22, 2014

Gazornenplatz

Olivia Munn was on Attack of the Show, which certainly did have questionable portrayals of women on it. They didn't do videogame demos, though, so I don't know why her objections would have led to an agreement between the two of you about the objectification of women on a show you wouldn't have ever been on.

I don't want to speak for her. But I suspect her issue was with the network's treatment of women and not wanting to appear on it.

Ultimately, I was the one who did the demo because she didn't want to be on their show.

Discussing the objectification and demeaning of women has been a topic we have discussed at length at work over the years.  We don't like it. Have never liked it. And I like it even less when I see guys who probably have never lifted a finger to help women in the game industry act like they're somehow doing something good by blindly supporting (and I don't think their support is genuine) any sort of anti-harassment article that comes out, even sloppy ones like the one discussed here.

 

on Jul 22, 2014

Frogboy

Yea, that's pretty bad. Let us know if that happens on our forums.

PM me anytime.... that's why I'm here......

......watching.....

on Jul 22, 2014

I'm watching the Twitter wars.......very entertaining. Those people are so   clueless. I think they actually think they're......witty.

on Jul 22, 2014

Frogboy

I agree, Twitter is an imperfect tool for such discussions.

I don't indulge in discussions for which Twitter would be the 'perfect tool' .

I'm more inclined to think that Twitter is populated by a disproportionate number of 'perfect tools' ...

on Jul 22, 2014

HAHA. Update. The BF losers called me a sock puppet. I've got to be the only sock puppet to get publicly flogged by the fanboys on these very forums for flaming Elemental and Demigod as not being ready before release! I feel like I should be paying them for my entertainment.

on Jul 22, 2014

Quoting Frogboy,

I agree, Twitter is an imperfect tool for such discussions.



I don't indulge in discussions for which Twitter would be the 'perfect tool' .

I'm more inclined to think that Twitter is populated by a disproportionate number of 'perfect tools' ...

I enjoy Twitter for getting info on interesting topics. I do engage in some trolling (or counter-trolling depending on ones POV).

HAHA. Update. The BF losers called me a sock puppet. I've got to be the only sock puppet to get publicly flogged by the fanboys on these very forums for flaming Elemental and Demigod as not being ready before release! I feel like I should be paying them for my entertainment.

This is nothing new.  I have seen on countless occasions them accuse people of being my sock puppet on QT3.  Don't tempt me to go over there, please.  Generally, they really have no idea how few people really agree with them. That's how they ended up on there in the first place. Some of them (like Matt Gallant) got banned to BF because they used sock puppets. So it's not surprising that those banned for using them would in turn assume everyone else does.

Sock puppets, at least in my experience, are there so someone can say something they're afraid to say as "themselves".  So just to be clear: My opinion on most of the BF regulars is that they're a bunch of cowardly, sociopathic pieces of shit who I have wished on many occasion I could meet at a trade show to relate to them in person how cowardly I think they.  I've attended many a QT3 dinner and made a point to get to know everyone there just to see any of them are one of the cowardly trolls who've posted online.  I'd love to see how well they can communicate whatever their beef is with me without their circle jerk of sociopaths to support them.  And before some litigious idiot thinks I'm threatening violence, I'm purely talking about seeing if they even have the courage to face me and argue their points.  So open invitation.

 

 

on Jul 23, 2014

Ah...in a 'perfect world' the quote function would....... work.....

on Jul 23, 2014

Borg999

BTW Brad..aren't you supposed to be on vacation?

 

Seriously, put down the laptop and relax.

 

It was raining today at the lake.

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