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There have been endless articles on how Windows 8 sacrificed desktop usability for being a better tablet OS.  The problem is, it’s not a very good tablet OS either.

The problem has nothing to do with Metro per se. The problem is that Windows still, at its heart, behaves like a 1990s OS.  Let me walk you through some things that I think, regardless of whether you’re a Windows, Android, iOS fan you can agree that these are inexplicably bad things.

For full disclosure, I have both a MS Surface and a MS Surface 2 Pro, my SP2 is my main “carry with me” machine.

#1 It often isn’t available when you want it to be

Want to check a quick email or look something up? Too bad, there’s an update that has be installed first. There’s always some update forcing itself on it seems like (or enough times that I can’t rely on it as my “quick check”

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Oh, you wanted to actually use your tablet right now? No, it’s Patch Everyday!

#2 It has terrible sleep power features

I can leave my Kindle Fire, iPad or heck Macbook Pro laying around for weeks and pick it up and the’re ready to go.  Not so for any Windows 8 tablet I’ve tried (MS Surface Pro, various Lenovos).  After a few days, they’re drained if not left plugged in.

 

#3 It’s slow or not reliable at acquiring WiFi after sleep

This is a pretty well known issue that you’d think they’d have fixed with Windows 8.  I even picked up a new MS Surface Pro 2 to be ready for next month’s Build conference and low and behold, about a third of the time it won’t reacquire (or is very slow) to pick up the WiFi network at my home or at my office.  I’ve had to reboot it before just to get it to see my WiFi.  Android, Mac, iOS have never had any issue with this.

 

#4 Its version of “Sleep” is really more like a light hibernate

You go out to a business lunch with your trusty iPad. You want to pull something up real fast. You press the home button and it’s back on, instantly.  Not so on a Windows 8 tablet.  You’re going to get the Surface logo (or whatever logo), wait a second. Get to the logon screen, you lift that up, hit your security check and THEN you’re in.  That’s insane for a tablet.

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Oh thanks!

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But you’re one of the biggest offenders!

 

#5 There’s no “launch” bar on the Metro screen

Android and iOS recognize that there’s typically just a few things you go-to on your tablet all the time.  Not so on Metro.  I want to get to my camera, I have to remember where I put it (before we made Launch8, I just put those things at the start of the list but it still required me to go back to the beginning of my start list to get to them).   This shouldn’t require a third-party program (same is true of ModernMix and Start8, hey thanks MS but I’d rather have the OS be solid out of the box).

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Why isn’t there a launch bar by default?

#6 What time is it?

Seriously, how often do you quickly look to see what time it is (or how much power you have left)? On Windows 8’s Metro, you have to bring up the Charms bar to get that.  What? Why? Not even something on the Start home screen? You have room for my name on the home screen (top right – thanks! I forgot who I am!) but not for the time of day or battery.

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Thank god, I forgot who I was. Now, what times is it? How much battery is left?

 

Bonus: This isn’t an OS issue, this is strange hardware design issue so I’m not including it into the list:  Its “home button” isn’t tactile.  People who use tablets often use them in low lighting. It’s incredibly frustrating not being able to find the Windows button.  Why do Windows 8 tablet manufacturers seem to insist on not having a tactile Windows button? 


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on Jun 10, 2014

Preach it, brother! There are definitely some strides to be made. I assume Windows Phone addresses some of these issues?

on Jun 10, 2014

Windows 8, regardless of the platform used, needs to die.

on Jun 10, 2014

 

Brad,

I agree with your OP. 

However, Lord Reliant posed a good question and in my experience the answer to that is "absolutely it does".   Windows Phone does in fact address the issues you cited (at least for me) and as I've stated a few times in other threads is the perfect 'rounding out / compliment' to using Windows 8 on my desktop, notebook and tablet.  To put it another way, I have never before felt as though I should carry my phone with me at all times.  Windows Phone 8 has changed that for me.

 

While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

on Jun 10, 2014

the_Monk
While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

Maybe the new Nokia phones will be Android based.

on Jun 10, 2014

kona0197


Quoting the_Monk, reply 3While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

Maybe the new Nokia phones will be Android based.

Why would they choose to downgrade?

 

on Jun 10, 2014

kona0197


Quoting the_Monk, reply 3While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

Maybe the new Nokia phones will be Android based.

Blech. Android is such crap.  I'm always amazed when I see someone who is otherwise technically sophisticated using one.

on Jun 10, 2014

I know this is focused a lot on the OS, but do you have any quick thoughts on the Surface Pro 3?

 

on Jun 10, 2014

Less phones. More E2015. 

 

Founder's Vault, GO!

on Jun 10, 2014

If Android devices are crap, why do they along with Apple sell more units than Windows phones?

 

on Jun 10, 2014

kona0197

If Android devices are crap, why do they along with Apple sell more units than Windows phones?

 

They're cheap.  

on Jun 10, 2014

Wasn't aware a $500 dollar phone was cheap. Anyhow, back to topic.

on Jun 10, 2014

kona0197


Quoting the_Monk, reply 3While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

Maybe the new Nokia phones will be Android based.

According to an article [I think] on NT Compatible, those Nokia phones which are currently Android will remain so pretty much as is, and the Windows Phone division will develop upon current and future Windows phones.  However, I rather expect MS will eventually phase out the Android OS for something more respectable... that being Windows 8.1 and beyond.  I too am happy with my Windows Phone [Win 8.1] and prefer it over Apple and Android devices.

As for the points raised in the OP, I haven't spent enough time with Windows tablets to have noticed them.  I did have a play with my niece's Surface Pro 2 and liked it enough, but Intel have just released a Windows tablet that looks rather inviting and I will weigh up the pros and cons of both when I'm closer to purchasing [one or the other]  I have an Android tablet which is sort of okay, to a point, and I can sync it with my PC and phone using 3rd party apps but I want to replace it with a Windows tablet to better utilise the platform across my devices.

I suppose, too, I'm not so much in a hurry these days and I do not depend on my devices for business purposes, and in my old[er] age I'm more patient than I ever used to be, so I guess I'll have to wait and see if the points raised in the OP piss me off enough to want to replace it with an iPad... though I seriously doubt it. 

Nah, I'm not yuppy enough to carry one of those.

on Jun 10, 2014

starkers
, but Intel have just released a Windows tablet that looks rather inviting and I will weigh up the pros and cons of both when I'm closer to purchasing [one or the other] 

 

a reference design is not a product you can buy in a store.

on Jun 10, 2014

Frogboy


Quoting kona0197, reply 4

Quoting the_Monk, reply 3While I am already happy with my current Windows Phone device (Nokia Lumia 920) I can't wait to see what MS plans to cook up now that they've acquired Nokia's phone division.

Maybe the new Nokia phones will be Android based.

Blech. Android is such crap.  I'm always amazed when I see someone who is otherwise technically sophisticated using one.

I'd love to see your analysis of Android. I have a Nexus 5 right now and while there are things I'd change about it, I'm pretty satisfied overall. I'd be interested in knowing your take on the OS (and maybe comparing to Windows Phone).

I'm leery of Windows Phone because I'm not fully in Microsoft's ecosystem (Office 365) and the lack of apps/development. I've never seen or used Windows Phone, so interested in hearing more.

on Jun 10, 2014



Quoting starkers, reply 12, but Intel have just released a Windows tablet that looks rather inviting and I will weigh up the pros and cons of both when I'm closer to purchasing [one or the other] 

 

a reference design is not a product you can buy in a store.

Perhaps not, but there will be a retail release by someone at some point... otherwise the entire concept/design is pointless.

 

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