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I was thinking the other day on how Galactic Civilizations has evolved over the years.  Let’s take a look:

Feature GalCiv OS/2 GalCiv I GalCiv II GalCiv III
Core 4X mechanics x x x x
United Planets x x x x
Moral Dilema Events x x x x
Anomalies   x x x
Galactic Resources   x x x
Galactic Events   x x x
Galactic Resources   x x x
Starbases   x x x
Ship Design     x x
Combat Viewer     x x
Cultural Conquest     x x
Unique Tech Trees per race     x x
Asteroid Fields     x x
Invasion Tactics     x x
Colony Imp. Map     x x
Ideology Tree       x
Hex Map       x
Multiplayer       x
United Planet Proposals       x
Fleet Combat Decisions       x
Technology Specialization       x
Nebula & Ion Storms       x
Strategic Resources       x
Colony Adjacency Bonuses       x

 

Not all features are created equally, however.  For example, the Starbase addition in GalCiv I was, by far, the biggest change from the OS/2 version.

GalCiv II added the ship designer and meaningful cultural warfare (many of my favorite games were about trying to convert my enemies to my culture via influence).

For GalCiv III, it’s too early to say which features will ultimately be the most game changing.  As an AI guy, I think the ideology tree is going to matter a great deal because it’ll heavily affect how diplomacy works in the game.  I also think the introduction of strategic resources (i.e. if you have resource X, you get access to using component Y on your ships) could be pretty amazing in what people choose to fight about.  Then there’s the fleet combat system which I think people will enjoy a great deal once implemented.

Each new GalCiv expands the features of the game universe more and more.  The key, as always, is how these concepts are executed on.


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on Apr 01, 2014

The city states feature in Civ V is vastly different than the minor races feature in this game. Minor races in Gal Civ are just other opponents who are not as threatening and who can trade with the player, but that's it. The city states are a core change in how Civ plays - you trade with them or go to war with or over them, and receive very significant benefits from them, and everything they do or offer is tied up into other game mechanics (social policies, unique civ features, etc). I don't see how anyone can even compare that to just having a few minor races as opponents.

The point I was making is to look at a feature like that and see how they took a chance and really updated the mechanics of how their game plays - it's a completely different game than Civ IV. I don't see anything being done to Gal Civ III in this regard.

You can call this version alpha, beta, gamma, zeta, these are just words. You're releasing an early build to the public for 99 bucks to help begin actually testing the game. If some as-yet-unmentioned major new features are still to come after this point, I will be very surprised.  That would be an odd decision to let the public see any version of your game so early in the process. To me it's like Apple selling a new iPhone prototype to see what people think, before they implement any big new changes other than to update a few icons or something.  It's just not common sense. We'll see what happens.

 

on Apr 01, 2014

LlamaCat
It's just not common sense. We'll see what happens.

 

Wow, you have a very interesting and unique view of things here. I take it you have no background in the industry? Ever be an "official" beta tester before? Your opinion of what constitutes "common sense" is not universal...

on Apr 01, 2014

Frogboy
Minor civs have been part of GalCiv since the beginning. That's why I didn't break them out into their own section.  We will likely expand on minor civs but they're not new to GalCiv.  We had them first.

There is hope for minor civs in GCIII to do more than occupy one planet and spam the univese with starbases (and offer cheap tech trading). Maybe this time they get to occupy a few planets, ally between themselves to kick some alien ass(es). Or join you as unique vassals. Or... something.

on Apr 01, 2014

Initially I did not like the City States in civ V much.

I found their importance artificial and the magnitude of the bonus they provide made the system exploitable. I literally vassalized every city state in the map and SteamRolled all the other civs. 

I have not played the game with expensions though, nor did I even play it recently. I went back to Civ IV instead.

I am overdue for playing an up to date patched + expansion Civ V though. Maybe I would change my mind about it then.

on Apr 03, 2014

LlamaCat
You can call this version alpha, beta, gamma, zeta, these are just words. You're releasing an early build to the public for 99 bucks to help begin actually testing the game. If some as-yet-unmentioned major new features are still to come after this point, I will be very surprised.  That would be an odd decision to let the public see any version of your game so early in the process. To me it's like Apple selling a new iPhone prototype to see what people think, before they implement any big new changes other than to update a few icons or something.  It's just not common sense. We'll see what happens.

 

The balls on this bloke to go up against the owner of the game with a misinformed and poorly thought out argument.... This is what I'd expect to see if I went onto the steam forums. Nobodies forcing you into buying the alpha at 100 bucks mate, shove off!

 

Fate,

on Apr 04, 2014

He's so wrong too.

I've participated in several of Stardock's early release betas and the game I downloaded at first was very much not feature complete. I recall that the race-specific tech trees in Twilight of the Arnor were introduced after testing started, and they were not all introduced at once.

 

on Apr 04, 2014

Race specific tech trees where by far the best addition to the game ever. I to remeber the beta of Twilight of the Arnor and how they added them for different races over different release, I was always eager to try out the latest race to get tech tree love after any release.

on Apr 11, 2014

Who was that guy on GC3 development team who sat during one of brainstorming sessions and said "Colony building adjacency bonuses!". Big props to that guy and to the rest of the team who went with it, this is something i envisioned for the game and really wanted to happen.


The problem I have is that it implies the opposite:   colony non-adjacency penalties.  It encourages a boring, grow-your-empire-normally game, when what I really want is for players to really mix it up and all h-e-double-hockey-sticks break loose.  I'd rather see the outlying colonies be valuable, juicy targets worth starting a war over.  Plus the strong races with big empires will only get stronger (since they will have more "middle" planets with lots of bonuses).

Speaking of hockey sticks:  I hope those Quebec Canadiens really spank New York good tomorrow.  

on Apr 11, 2014

Adjacent bonus apply to putting certain improvements in a colony on adjacent hexes.....

They  aren't to do with the location of the planet.

on Apr 11, 2014

Oh, cool.   That was on my Galciv2 wish list, too.   I think it rocks because it makes you think about how to build your colony.  Location matters.   And not just for what you build:  the bonus tiles' locations matter, too.

 

Just when it got me to thinking about the proximity-to-other-colony bonuses....      I was thinking maybe ship-building bonuses for each neighboring alien planet, and improvement-building bonuses for each same-race planet.   That way everybody's warships get built toward the front line (instead of always rally-pointing everything).  Plus it makes you have to shift gears as your empire grows (and your outliers become inliers).

on Apr 11, 2014

tetleytea
I was thinking maybe ship-building bonuses for each neighboring alien planet, and improvement-building bonuses for each same-race planet.   That way everybody's warships get built toward the front line (instead of always rally-pointing everything).  Plus it makes you have to shift gears as your empire grows (and your outliers become inliers).

They are switching up how ship-building is being done. I think you will be pleased with the idea of what they are going to do with ship-building especially when you move to the front line. But planet proximity bonuses are not on the list that I've seen on the moment.

on Apr 11, 2014

more minor races

on May 01, 2014

Gaunathor

2. I'm pretty sure, that GalCiv 1 had Cultural Conquest and Invasion Tactics too.

It did, but it messes up the pretty nature of the list.

 

PS:  Galciv2 for OS/2 had an entire expansion-eaque thingy dedicated to ship design if I recall, called "Shipyards."  So saying ship design wasn't present is only sorta-true.

 

For example, the Starbase addition in GalCiv I was, by far, the biggest change from the OS/2 version.

 

 

No.  Having a competent artist was by far the biggest, most noticeable change (no offense meant to Brad).

on May 01, 2014

PS: Galciv2 for OS/2 had an entire expansion-eaque thingy dedicated to ship design if I recall, called "Shipyards." So saying ship design wasn't present is only sorta-true.

Indeed it did, and you remember the name as well as I do.

on Jul 15, 2014

Frogboy
I think the biggest surprise will be the multiplayer.  The nature of GalCiv (on tiny maps in 1 v 1 games) works out remarkably well.

Will we be able to play MP on all map sizes?  I really hope it is not limited to the small map.

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