Re names on maps, GC2 has a player-centered version already. You can rename stars and colonies regardless of who occupies them.

What I'd like to see for Elemental is a way to view what names the other civs have put on the map--some sort of map room that you need to stock up via something like espionage spending or appropriate clairevoyance spells. The multiplayer question CapnWinky raised seems to make something like that an essential companion to enabling players to name map features.

I'm also curious about whether we'll be able to simply draw some boundaries and give them a label or if we'll only be able to rename specific 'geography' objects on the map. I'd like this especially for the larger maps, where I hope a 'bioregion' thing like a desert or forest could be fairly large, e.g. in the Big Dustbucket desert, I'd like to be able to mark the tile or tiles where a great battle occured with some name like Especially Bloody Sands.

Agreed, I think what I envision is close to what you see in the front of many fantasy books. My personal impression from what we've been told so far makes me think SD is thinking the same thing (that is, not naming just a particular mountain).

I think I'd be happy if I could lasso an arbitrary region and assign it a name, then the game guesses at an orientation and font-size but lets me tweak both. Like a long north-south mountain range, I'd like the game to guess that the text needs to run on its side but would let me change it if I wanted. Also of course being able to just click and put a name on a specific spot.

Maybe this is all stuff we will get to hash out in Beta 0

The naming of sections of map terrain will be fun.  The solution within Multiplayer is actually quite easy.  

From the images we've seen it does appear each player has a dominion or magic domain or territorial boundary.  The player who has the majority of ownership for a section of map terrain should have the ability to rename the location for everyone in the game.  

As an extra feature a low level and inexpensive magic spell could be used so the location cannot be renamed until another player casts the spell using even more magic.

Awesome! The bringing a world to life is one of my favourite aspects of civilization/mom like games. Looking at what you're planning you're going to take it to the next level (Even a bit of Majesty influences there it seems) Now its that its you guys otherwise I would have huge doubts you could bring it all together. Now with the Stardock team I feel it might actually be possible!

Keep up the good work!

Do you need a reason beyond 'to look cool'? So long as there's gameplay behind it, I don't.

Thanks for the great details FB.

This is great news, I really am liking the idea of parties of heroes wandering the lands looking for glory and treasure. Also, the DM/World-builder part of my ego is enticed by the idea of moulding the lands! Regarding the ability to zoom in, glad you are keeping it! Labeling the world is great too. Looking better and better!

Questions:

• will you be able to put up quests, hire heroes to remove a threat? (ie. hire a stalwart band to defeat a dragon recently rampaging through farms?) If yes, can you watch them battle the dragon to glorious victory or crushing defeat? (and if defeated, guess you have to hire another group or get your army involved?)
• Possible to hire adventurers/mercenaries to go into a neighbor's lands to explore or wreak havoc? Hire an assasin or spy? (guess we are getting more into the politics facet now..)

Still not sure I'll care for multiplayer, but if I did, I'd still want some ability to maintain the map coordinates & location names separately somehow. I'm thinking of things like "Istanbul's not Constantinople any more" and the Falklands/Malvinas, Malvinas/Falklands argument (still evident in the Wikipedia redirect).

I really dig your idea, NT. The only issue I have is on really huge maps. You will have alot of wild space like mountains/forests/oceans (at least I hope...I want to avoid Civ4 tile spam). There could definitely be an instance where no single player has territorial boundaries in a certain area.

How do we address this? Maybe exploration could be another criteria? If it's in your kingdom you get to name it. If it's in no ones kingdom...then the first person to fully explore an ocean, mountain range, or forest gets to name it. The name remains until someone's kingdom extends to that geographical location.

Reminds me of a commercial where a guys says "Why didn't you just mail me the check?" and the other guy is like "um, we have a hovercraft..."

However an area gets named (exploration, ownership, other) I think that once a feature is named the name should stick for the duration of the game in multiplayer. I dunno I guess I can see both advantages and disadvantages to renaming stuff, it just seems like especially a hotly contested area it could get old for it to be renamed many times. Also, what if empire boundaries divide a geographical feature among 2 or more empires?

I really like the idea of the discoverer gets namng rights, and that name sticks.

Gawh...another loophole. . Can we get some dev input please

 Multiplayer can be amazing fun... just don't have your first multiplayer experience with strangers on the internet.  Many strangers on the internet will either try cheating, quit when they start losing or possibly have a rude immature personality.... which can really destroy the fun.   First do multiplayer with friends and/or family when possible and start as a team against AI opponents.  If you must start with multiplayer online make sure you know the personality and behaviors of the individuals within the game...  typically online guilds have members who all trust each other and play together.

In regards to having map location names separately... this can cause confusion between the different players.  As you might have named a location as "The Great Forest"  while another player has it called the "The Grey Forest".  Ideally the names for all map locations should be the same for all players so communications with terrains are not confusing.

Yes, I'm expecting many areas which are not owned by anyone for large, huge, and gigantic maps.  I'm not sure if exploration would be fair... as one nation playing a turtle strategy would lose naming rights to another player using an expansion blitz strategy.  The best fair way to have these wild spaces named would be allowing all players to vote.  One player submits a name change request and the other players can choose none or submit their own name change request.  The next turn each player gets to vote among the list of names.  If 4 different human players all want different names then it should randomly choose one of the 4 names.    

The actual renamings of locations should only happen once every 20_turns OR if the location falls under control of a new empire.  I say 20_turns because an event may change the terrain such as a volcanic eruption leveling a forest or a great battle may cause a swamp to earn a new name.  If two players are renaming one location often due to the change of control the other players can pressure via diplomacy one or both players for a specific name to remain. 

I estimate it would be very rare for two empire boundaries to perfectly share (50% and 50%) one single geographical location... but for such an unlikely scenario the player who originally obtained the majority should have naming rights.

Why bother with naming rights at all? Just have everybody assign names, and have all the names show up on the map. For example, if I name a mountain "G'Nost Peak", and you name it "NT_Jedi_Is_Cool", both names would show up on the map pointing to the same thing. No confusion, no unfair naming rights, just the possible most obvious system.

Well that can be a problem for a game which has  20 human players and each of them give unique names... the overlapping of names would make the map very cluttered.   Then for PBEM  games communication is done all by email between players causing even more confusion.

Dominions_3 is a fantasy TBS game where over 70 players can be all on the same game.

It's not absolutely perfect, but I imagine that the devs could rig something up with font, stacking selectors, and floating labels.

I don't think players need to be confused with in-depth naming rules. Leave that for the city council guys who decide who gets a street named after them. Against the AI, the player should be able to name geographic features, even if the names are silly and stupid. (Here be the Buttface Mountains!) Against human players: maybe disable naming? Only name stuff in your territory? Random names pulled from a database?