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Published on November 10, 2008 By Frogboy In OS Customization

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Object Desktop 2009, which is due out on November 19, will be including some pretty cool stuff.  For Vista users, they finally get BootSkin.  For XP users, they get animated wallpaper with DeskScapes.


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on Nov 19, 2008

Considering that its a card/driver issues and that MS said that Dreams were vista only I'd say it's quite an accomplishment

 

lol considering that stardock said that deskscapes was going to be XP compatible, wouldn't they have realized this problem?

on Nov 19, 2008

the fact that deskscapes wont work on AGP yet doesn't bother me as i don't intend on using it anyway, and i know that dreams were originally only for vista, but it producing an XP version it is always worthwhile to consider what hardware those XP users are most likely to be using and work accordingly. It's nice that eventually they will work on AGP 8x but this should have been detailed right from the start. How many people have gone and downloaded/installed the program on XP only to find that it wont run or is making their computers unusable. I am just saying that clearer information right from the beginning would have been nice so people wouldn't get their hopes up and make rash desicions that they may regret

on Nov 19, 2008

You must remember that Deskscapes requires a DirectX9 graphics card of which pretty much all of them are AGP 8x or PCIE.

Once the December ATI drivers are released the only people without support are people with AGP 1x, 2x, 4x motherboards.

on Nov 19, 2008

What annoys me is that at no time before today have I seen SD announce that deskcapes 2.5 would probably not work on its release date for 70% of its subscribers, especially when the forums have been full of people with their tongues hanging out waiting for the release. I must admit that I feel misled.

Maybe in december if and when the drivers are released it may run fine on 8x AGP, but I fear that that the demands on the cpu/graphics card probably wont make running deskcapes full time a viable option. (or perhaps I am being over sceptical (don't know why that should be)).

on Nov 19, 2008

Where did this 70% come from?  It is unlikely that 70% of our XP customers have ATI AGP graphics cards.

In an ideal world the ATI drivers would have been out by now, but we have to fit in with their release schedule.  We could either hold back the release until the drivers come out next month and so prevent any customers from using it even the nvidia users and PCIE users, or release it now knowing the updated drivers will be coming in December.

As for cpu usage, dynamic dreams run with their usual low cpu usage levels and video dreams depend on the video in question as on Vista. 

on Nov 20, 2008

It stands to reason that most xp users will be using older machines which will likely have older type cards, although I admit I do not know the percentages any more than you do.

Whilst I take your point about holding the release up, my complaint is that SD did not inform in advance the people getting excited by the news of the release, creating disappointment to many.

Thank you for your reassurance that once the AGP drivers are available that it should run with low cpu usage.

on Nov 20, 2008
Can anyone tell me if this card will be supported? NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS/AGP/SSE2 (256 MB)
on Nov 20, 2008

 

 

Deskscapes 2.5 (with XP support published at 1pm)

  • With a Dream file applied dragging and dropping icons from the desktop to a folder does not work at this time.
  • Please visit this web site to review video card requirement details.  In short, AGP Video cards are not supported at this time.  Future driver updates from NVIDIA/ATI will add support later this year.  At that time only AGP 8x will be supported (4x/2x/1x bus speeds are not adequate to support dream functionality at low CPU).
  • The Watercolor Dream may exhibit some distortion on Windows XP.

Whilst I take your point about holding the release up, my complaint is that SD did not inform in advance the people getting excited by the news of the release, creating disappointment to many.

 

The above statement is from the official support thread. I read it before downloading.

on Nov 21, 2008
The official support thread was not posted until 18 November, 1 day brfore release. I am not aware of any information about AGP cards being released before this date. If you read it before downloading and found you had an AGP card, would you not have felt aggrieved?
on Nov 22, 2008
What codecs do I need? Where do I get them?
on Nov 22, 2008

For SD staff who may be monitoring:

Installing DeskScapes on my XPP SP2 notebook (NVIDIA 8600M GT 512MB RAMDAC) rendered IP4's shell icon replacement (repair) non-functional.  Uninstalling it restored shell icon functionality to normal.

In addition, DeskScapes installed without a problem, but as soon as I would select one of the default dreams & click Apply, it would generate a "RunDLL as an app" crash.

on Nov 22, 2008

WebGizmos
Can anyone tell me if this card will be supported?
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS/AGP/SSE2 (256 MB)

 

Neil's responses specifically mentioned AGP ATI cards, so your GeForce 7600GS should work fine (it's a DX9 card, I think--I know I ran DX9 with the 7300GS in my old machine).

 

on Nov 23, 2008

Warreni...it's workin...kinda...but when I open deskscapes...choose a theme and then click apply....I keep getting "AGP Card detected. Deskscapes 2.5 is not compatible with your video card at this time. Please click No or Cancel to read the compatibility information. Try applying Dream anyway?" but some don't work at all. One didn't apply at all and another one said someting about Mpeg 4.

on Nov 24, 2008

Any further feedback on the 'RunDLL as an app' crash when applying a dream in XPP (NVIDIA notebook)?  I probably won't use DeskScapes until the IP4 conflict gets resolved, but I'm curious.

on Nov 24, 2008

Nimbin

Actually it is a case of it is a bad idea to use it on ATI AGP cards until December. Nvidia AGP systems should work ok, though the cpu may be a little higher than a PCIE system (PCIE is simply a better bus design than AGP)

 

considering that over 70% of XP systems use AGP video cards this is quite a glaring oversight

Oversight in what way? If you have a crappy computer it's probably not a good idea to run animated wallpaper.

DeskScapes is software, not magic.

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