Brad Wardell's site for talking about the customization of Windows.

I think long before global climate change matters one way or the other that the fate of humanity will be determined by how we make use of strong AI.

In the near term (next 5 to 10 years) we’re going to see a huge swath of jobs disappear.  This past week Panera bread added a kiosk to let me order my food.  Wendy’s and McDonalds are already heading that way too. 

Transportation is next.  My Tesla Model X with auto-pilot is on the way. I should have it in the next month or so and it won’t be long before a lot of transportation jobs are simply eliminated as machines start taking care of moving stuff from point A to point B.  They don’t have to be perfect at it, just better than us which is a pretty low bar.

I often hear about the demand to have a basic allowance provided by the government in order to prevent the masses from rising up.  But even there, they’re not thinking far enough.  Long before there are unemployment riots there will be security bots that the upcoming uber-rich will be able to afford to protect their property.

My question to you guys is this, how do you see this going?


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on Jun 09, 2016

starkers

Great, millions of fat, slovenly 'former' workers playing games all day everyday, just what the future needs Instead of evolving, the human race would devolve and become an economic drain just eating up resources.

Eloi.

on Jun 09, 2016


Very Rumsfeldian, there, psycho...

He may sound Rumsfeldian, but to me he's channeling Bastiat.

on Jun 09, 2016

High praise.

on Jun 09, 2016

Another reason AI should not be replacing the workforce is hookers.  Venting one's frustrations with a flesh and blood hooker is natural and would feel that way, whereas going to a robotic AI one would not be natural.  Moreover, it wouldn't be right for a machine to be saying: "That'll be a 100 bucks, please."

Not only that, the rich and wealthy would get models that look like the female terminator in Terminator 3 and feel natural, while the poor get Arnie look-a-likes with all that chrome and tungsten underneath a synthetic skin.... and feeling like a bucket of bolts.  Nope, it wouldn't pay to be poor in the future

Shoot, given that scenario, and needing to get some dirty water off my chest, I dunno that I'd wanna be rich, either.

on Jun 10, 2016

The real problem with robotic hookers is that pretty girls would actually have to work their way through college, instead of "working" through it.

on Jun 10, 2016

The real problem with robotic hookers is that pretty girls would actually have to work their way through college, instead of "working" through it.

 

To get a degree in...

 

Wait for it...

 

Gender Studies!

on Jun 10, 2016

Somehow I don't think many of the women stripping through college are wasting their time getting a degree in gender studies.  They'd need to be too dumb for college to start with if they could still convince themselves of the value in it while practicing it's ideological destruction by wrapping losers around their fingers and milking them of every dime they've got in our great white patriarchy...

on Jun 10, 2016

Seriously what would the difference be between a blow up doll and a robot.

on Jun 10, 2016

Well, I've never been able to grasp the attraction to any of that stuff, but I imagine that for anyone who'd do a rubber doll to start with, one that talked back and whatnot is either a serious detraction, or a pretty big plus, depending on how royally screwed in the head they are.

on Jun 11, 2016

psychoak

The real problem with robotic hookers is that pretty girls would actually have to work their way through college, instead of "working" through it.

Yup, the academic staff would have to give real grades...  in the absence of a bit of 'fleshy encouragement' to stamp their papers with an A+.

Same would go with college football players, etc... they'd get true grades that'd show 'em up for the meatheads alot of 'em really are.

See, this proves my point that AI should not be developed to take the place of human activities.  Just look at all the problems it would cause.  You'd have hookers and strippers without college degrees to fall back on when 'the body' gets too old or worn out.... and you'd have former college football stars... er, meatheads becoming senators and the like, politicians without an education or qualifications.

Oh wait!  Former college football stars have done.... are already doing that.

 

 

BTW, no offense to former football stars was intended... and NONE should be taken.

on Jun 11, 2016

admiralWillyWilber

Seriously what would the difference be between a blow up doll and a robot.

Seriously!  Have you seen what's inside a Terminator? 

Besides, I doubt too many men would wanna 'engage' with something that looked anything like Arnie.

As for the blow-up doll, I don't see the fascination there, either.  I'd always worry about getting too vigourous, puncturing it, and it flying out the window with me still firmly 'attached'.

on Jun 11, 2016

50 years from now, starkers' posts will be used as the training set for the dirty old man AI 

on Jun 11, 2016

I've discussed this in several of my blogs here.  Try the one on a general solution to poverty (33K hits and 204 mostly intelligent and serious responses).  Or look back a few years to the blog I did on a guaranteed fixed dividend here in the U.S., closely paralleling the Swiss proposal. (The Only Real Solution - November, 2008) http://philosborn.joeuser.com/article/329574/The_Only_Real_Solution

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on Jun 11, 2016

hedetet

50 years from now, starkers' posts will be used as the training set for the dirty old man AI 

Hehe, I wonder if they use the same old raincoats to open up and 'flash' unsuspecting women... female AI.

And what would the 'offensive member' look like... a bolt or screw, which would somehow seem appropriate; something like a dildo; or facsimiles of the real thing, using former porn stars thingwybobs as models.  I say former stars cos by then AI would have taken over that industry as well.... cos why should humans have all the fun.  I mean, being sentient and all, they'd want 'sentient' rights, lurks and perks, wouldn't they.

on Jun 15, 2016

See Comment #58, which somehow got mangled - no doubt an evil AI..


Ahem.   I've written two major blogs that got into this issue:

One recently on a general solution to poverty worldwide, in which I proposed a fairly small global dividend, an equal amount to every human on the planet, just to equalize the books on social justice and to keep a billion people from starving and give them some basic working capital to start producing. $500~$1000 annually per person everywhere.

One on an equal lump sum payment to every U.S. citizen to offset the losses to the lower end of the income scale due to massive predation by crooks who were profiting at the high end.

Hopeless people who are now artificially excluded from much of the market due to predatory political/economic/military policy will not be any happier when their efforts to becoming self-supporting are further undercut by robots taking over all the drudge jobs...  Unless they see that it will actually profit them personally.

Right?  So the Swiss referendum idea was pretty close to the mark - leaving some fairly minor questions* as to implementation unresolved.  It could work nationally or internationally, but long-term best worldwide.  If everyone at least has the bare basics guaranteed by a national or world dividend (think Alaska), then those people who were previously hopeless would have a starting point to building a life.

It's either that or a likely world war, with robots on all sides.  Guess who will survive?

*There was the issue in the Swiss deal as to whether everyone got exactly the same amount.  I say YES, because one of the great benefits of a flat dividend is that it takes much of the politics out of the  picture.  You're not voting to advantage your groups against everyone else.  Instead, the only vote - direct or via some representative process - would be on the decision as to the raw size of the dividend, and that should be subject to rational analysis, with some disagreement of course.  But I and probably most people would be happy to see a dividend that didn't kill the golden goose. 

Let the robots and their wealthy corporate owners take all the jobs and make all the money, so long as I get a share based on me being a member of a species that provided them with the basic environment and capability to do so.  Not to mention the contributing share of the Earth's ecosphere.  Would the robots have ever evolved by themselves?  Look around the solar system.  Where are they?  They OWE us.  Just a fact.

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