i still play Civ3 more than Civ4. Much of that is due to not being able to play huge unmodded maps, or medium sized heavily modded games with Civ4. Civ3 is the better game for me simply because it doesn't have the content limits. And that seems to be due to Civ4s fidgety 3D graphics. i can play massive games on Civ3 with major mods. Some of these mods have broke the code which limits number of cities and units. No problem. Hundreds of cities and well over a thousand units. No problem cept with the hyperlinks. Mods keep me playing, and that kept me buying until Civ5 required external DRM client. 

i hope FE can get a handle on this memory thingy. Elemental franchise could become my new Civ, but only if i can play epic games with massive mods. If not then i will enjoy the small maps till i don't. Then move on. 

Just to add my 2 cents, I have never bought a DLC in any game thus far, that was worth the money.

Add the maps to the expansion and raise the price, if you must, but extra cash for maps that many other people are producing for free, does not seem to be worth it.

Well, I haven't actually played the game yet since I was neck deep in getting to the new cap in Lotro when this game came out. I will just come out and say that I have never once played a custom map in any game except Alpha Centauri where the campaign map was a set map. I would love to give you guys 5 bucks for some DLC but maps are not the way to my wallet; sorry.

I will try the game out this weekend or next after I browse some of the 1.01 feedback. I greatly enjoyed the original release of WoM but the aspects I loved were nerfed as the as the game improved lol

I'm a little late to chime in on this topic. But I just want to say I can't see myself buying a map pack for a game that's meant to play with random maps. Not unless the map pack included new monsters/quests/terrain variations or something that would also be added to the pool of stuff the random generator could draw upon for map creation. That map pack they made for Civ 5 included a new variation of the Continents style random map for example. You could also sweeten the deal by making new premade Sovereigns for Capitar, and Umber.

Fatbil,

I would rather see more expansions than dlc. But if i like to play the game im not that bothered with small packages which would lenghten the time i would spend with the game. More diverse monsters, skins and new factions has my preference for dlc. But new patches, balance tweaks and mods might be preferable to me now.

If u are worried about the price. Steam has summersales where u could often buy it for 75% less. But you have to be patient of course.

I won't pay for maps ..But may for an expansion, why not pack'em together ?

I honestly think a map pack for DLC is a terrible idea. I have never, and will never, buy a map pack. They don't add anything worthwhile to the game. Random maps + lack of MP really erode a need for spending additional money on maps. I think you'd be way better off with added civs/spells/champions than maps.

I disagree with all ^   I definitely want fantasy races like Master of Magic. It's a fantasy game afterall so bring in the fantasy races. Especially hobbitssssss

Willie Sanderson,

The possiblilitys of the fantasy genre is endless. So u might get lucky

I agree that reactions on both the forum and the review sites have been strangely muted.

As far as I am concerned there is a feeling of waiting for the game to be finished, and I am not ready to comment on it on the internet until I see how Stardock deals with the issues that the game still has.

To beat a decomposing horse, I am talking about giving tactical combat some meaningful shape, reviewing the magic system and its selection of spells and fixing diplomacy. I know this is all working as intended from the dev point of view, but to me it all feels like a first try and not like a finished product. Therefore I am, in a way and possibly forever, still waiting for the game to be finished before giving any evaluation of it on forums or among friends and before I consider buying DLC.

I'd rather play an original game than a Tokenesque pastiche. As I said in one thread, it would be a disservice to the game to slap together some fantasy races and drop them in while neglecting to actually make something that adds to the game and the games lore, you're essentially dumbing it down for mass appeal because people can't stand originality. 

Hi all

Well, I will buy the DLC Map pack and they certainly will get played!

I'm happy to support FE and Stardock $5 it's nothing, how long dose an average large map game take? seems good value to me.

Yes I mostly play random maps, but no random map will ever be as good a well crafted player created map...

Yep $5 I'm in.

It depends how good those maps are and what they may contain. If they come with scripts or recurring events (like tidal waves, expanding growth, growing volcanos or rivers springing up - i.e. life of their own) they would be interesting. So far I have not used pre-made maps with most games, as they have no advantage over random ones.

(On the other hand, I'd like to support Stardock.)

That's why other game release editors or have randomly generated maps. It's exactly because they don't require much resources to create that people will probably not pay for them. I know I wont.

Folks reading this Discussion Thread, who are interested in the Map Pack that Frogboy mentions here,      (or folks who are militantly sure that they don't like the idea of a DLC Map Pack       ) probably ought to check out Frogboy's new Discussion thread, where he mentions (among other things) that a "Gigantic" Anthys Map will be included in the $5 Map Pack; and that "most" of the new Stardock-staff  "Hand-crafted maps"  will permit some measure of ships (unit transports ?) to be used on them ...

The point is: the discussion about the Map Pack has moved onwards, to this Thread:

         https://forums.elementalgame.com/436360