Perhaps if we dedicated more effort to castrate the rapists and (violent) child molesters and brought back hanging by the neck in the public town square, the criminals would have something to worry about. I for one am sick and tired of pampering these assholes with our tax $ for years at a time while they sit on death row only to be put down in a "humane" manner.

But, back to the OP.

I loved it from start to finish

I'll wait for the DVD.

Wrong.

I know the Batman movies DIDN'T "make Holmes do it"! 

Who knows? Maybe for years. Batman the Dark Knight movie came out in 2008. I think it gave him ideas though, otherwise he wouldn't have imitated the Joker.

Even Heath Ledger described the Joker as a "psychopatihic, mass-murdering, schizophrenic clown with zero empathy."  

I agree. Just like guns don't murder people, people murder people.

You know as well as I do that people react to what they see and hear in Movies.  That's the point here with the killer and the ficticioius Batman movies showcasing intense brutality and violence. We'll learn more about the killer soon...somewhere along the way, his life snapped. For him, I'd say the movies were toxic. 

But for other movie goers, obviously, the film would likely not be dangerous.

That's true but only so far. 

Please somebody tell me: why on earth would adults go to theatre in the middle of the night with infants and children to watch a Batman movie? Twelve people, among them a six year old child was killed. I also read that an infant was hurt but not seriously.

Time will tell. 

Probably because they weren't expecting to be shot.

The first movie I can recall causing 'dramas' was A Clockwork Orange which 'inspired' lots of emulating 'droogs'.

Then came  The Warriors .... again inciting issues.

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Now, the Op is about the Movie, not what transpired at one screening.   What say we stick with its topic....

I really liked the epilogue. I'm probably in the minority that I didn't realize Tommy Solomon was Robin until the end. I like epilogues like that. Loved the one in Gladiator, for instance.

I did however expect Tate to be a bad guy (I didn't realize she's the main villain though) the moment they showed the scar on her back when they had shagged. I was surprised that Batman didn't realize this. I don't understand why they showed her scar and him looking at the scar if he didn't draw any conclusions out of it.

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Dark Knight Rises Spoiler thread

What did you think?

I enjoyed the movie immensely and will likely be going back again. There was some troubling pacing and the usual frustration of "Oh come on, people with automatic weapons would solve this in a heart beat."

I am on topic folks. Whether you agree of not, there is a very disturbing dark side to these movies "inciting issues". 

This is true!

However, it should be noted that I did not take my first cousin as my date nor did I sneak a small farm animal in for companionship. 

I'll wait for the DVD.

I'm afraid you weren't alone. I'm glad I didn't end up going to the midnight premier with my friends, not because I live in Colorado, but it took be the entire credits to get myself to a point where I felt I could come out of the theater.

Yeah, I'm surprised it somehow didn't get spoiled before hand, but it was a great twist.

SPOILER - ROBIN IS NOT GAY ANYMORE!

I saw it today and thought that the violence was pretty understated compared to a lot of the "gore porn" horror movies that are released. I wouldn't take young children to see it.

I also thought it did a very good job of not applauding violence.

Aside from the actions of Bane...

You start with a man who's life is ruined--and the lives of all those around him--by violence.  Violence that has caused him regret.

You go on to the lamentation of his friends for him to put it behind him and go on with his life.

The portrayals of Bane's violence give nothing with which to sympathize or empathize.

Batman has to come to grips with the effects of violence in his life and what has cost him and make a real choice as to whether he can endure more suffering to defend the innocent.

Batman in the film steadfastly refuses to use lethal weapons against his enemies and in the end is willing to sacrifice himself to save others from them.

The villain's source of pain is revealed and one is even shown shedding a tear--making them more human--but also showing that their pain was no greater than Batman's and that each had to make a choice as to what they would do.  Batman chooses to "rise" and they choose to continue to descend.

I don't think we should be casual about violent films or take them for granted but this one actually took a moral high ground.  It certainly is no more graphic than reading in the OT about Deborah driving a tent stake through the head of a king.

The point of the stories is as important as the content.  Batman is a fable for our generation--a morality tale and a hero legend.

IMO the ending was complete garbage and what they did with "Robin" was a crime. I did enjoy many of the nods to other Batman lore though and aside from the ending I liked the movie a lot. They used Bane for his main purpose, which is to break the bat. Him not having nor even mentioning his "venom" was a bit of a let-down, but, it gave him a more grounded feeling not to have it. Still, I just think the ending blows. They should of left him dead.

I've heard from a reliable source I know that the ending that was used in the movie was actually originally planned as an alternate "happy" ending where he survives the explosion and that Nolan originally wanted him to be dead at the end. The "he dies" ending will be included with extra/cut footage in the 3 disk collectors edition.

At the beginning of the movie when Alfred starts talking about his wish to see Bruce in some random cafe with a wife and kids, you just knew there was no way they couldn't end the movie without that scene, as cheesy as it was.

Also, is Bane supposed to sound like Sean Connery hooked up to a sleep apnea machine?