Brad Wardell's site for talking about the customization of Windows.
Published on February 14, 2019 By Frogboy In Stardockians

Tell us what you'd like to see us work on for Object Desktop this year.

New apps? Update existing apps? You let us know.


Comments (Page 3)
on Feb 19, 2019

I use WindowBlinds, Cursor FX, Start 10 and Object Dock on Win 10 without any issues. Don't know why latest email newsletter said OD doesn't work on Win 10. It may perhaps depend on Win 10 release because early on there was a file corruption issue on one of three Win 10 machines that required uninstall and reinstall, but that's only a guess on the basis that this has never occurred before or since. I find OD far more useful than any other system for launching apps, and the desktop is nothing but beautiful wallpaper. Love it!

on Feb 19, 2019

What we are probably going to do is build a new program to replace ObjectDock that would become part of Object Desktop.

We used to make a program called Tab LaunchPad.

This is what the OS/2 version of Object Desktop looked like:

on Feb 19, 2019

Well, there is sometimes quite a difference between aesthetic issues and usability issues, and for me OD actually offers the best of both. I'd prefer seeing two different products that give customers a choice. I don't use Fences or Groupy, for example, because I have alternative ways of organization that keep desktop very clean. Below is the current desktop with wallpaper.

Desktop with wallpaper

Nothing to see, and yet OD, Taskbar and Win menu are readily available. I've had numerous people ask about appearance of Windows and I tell them to take a look at Stardock. This is why.

on Feb 19, 2019

I'm an object desktop subscriber. All I have installed right now is Fences and SpaceMonger. I used Start10 for quite a long while and I do really prefer it to the Windows 10 start menu. However I was forced to uninstall it. 95% of the time, to launch a program, I hit the start key on my keyboard and then type a part of the name of the program I want to launch. However, I eventually realized that Start10 was omitting (not able to find) programs that the stock Windows 10 start menu can find. For my use case this totally destroys the functionality of Start10 and I have to limp along with the Windows stock start menu instead.

The reason I prefer Start10 to the Windows 10 start menu is the other use case that delivers 5% of the total value, which is if I want to browse the start folders. Windows 10 removed one level of nesting and it very negatively affects my ability to access certain utilities when I have multiple programs installed from the same developer. Start10 keeps the full nesting making it much easier to find the right program.

None of your offerings that customize the way Windows looks are interesting to me. It looks good enough already. The productivity tools are more interesting but they have to work. I haven't tried Groupy because I actually think tabs are a much overused metaphor that just makes it harder to find things, but I might give it a shot at some point.

I thought I was your major demographic but judging from the responses that may not be the case. I have subscribed for a few years. The failure of Start10 really made me think hard about resubbing this last time. The app world is in a race to the bottom as you said in your email and I believe in funding the projects I find useful ... but not being able to use Start 10 really calls the value exchange into question for me.

on Feb 19, 2019

I am disappointing that it appears that you are going to stop development of ObjectDock. That is my favorite and most used app of yours. I understand the economics of it, but I for one would be willing to pay up to $20 for it. I am limping along with it now on Windows10, but I did not trust it on my new SurfacePro. I purchased the full version of Nexus Dock, which I do not like nearly as much.

Please, consider continuing with ObjectDock. I am a big fan.

Don

on Feb 19, 2019

PLEASE DO NOT KILL WINDOWBLINDS! I JUST READ THE LATEST STARDOCK MAGAZINE AND YOU ARE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME!

 

I will tell you one thing, you get rid of Windowblinds, I am gone.

on Feb 19, 2019

Agreed. Not really much point if no WB. 

on Feb 20, 2019

LightStar

PLEASE DO NOT KILL WINDOWBLINDS! I JUST READ THE LATEST STARDOCK MAGAZINE AND YOU ARE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME!

Where'd you read this Tom?

 

on Feb 20, 2019

Hmmm... I don`t use fences or croupy at all, but I use a lot of Windows blind, icon packer, object Dock and cursorFX. Most of them would benefit From having theme ability that allows changing the appearance by loading theme packs and allowing you to make theme packs instead of changing individual things by hands.

if I use severals hours to make desktop to look nice, it would be cool to allow to share that work. Or if someone else makes good looking combination of icons and desktop and cursors. It would be nice to be able to load full theme From someone else. There could even be market for sell able themepacks.

on Feb 20, 2019

LightStar

PLEASE DO NOT KILL WINDOWBLINDS! I JUST READ THE LATEST STARDOCK MAGAZINE AND YOU ARE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME!

 

I will tell you one thing, you get rid of Windowblinds, I am gone.

Yeah, without Windowblinds changing the entire GUI, there'd be little little to point in cusomising a desktop.  As it is too many good/great apps have gone by the wayside in recent years.  Windowblinds had better not be another that dies a premature death. 

I mostly use Windowblinds, Iconpackager, CursorFX and Start10 in conjunction with each other, but for me, the latter 3 would largely be redundant [in a cusomising sense] without WB changing the GUI.  So no, I would not re-up my subs if it goes.

on Feb 20, 2019

don5318


Quoting LightStar,

PLEASE DO NOT KILL WINDOWBLINDS! I JUST READ THE LATEST STARDOCK MAGAZINE AND YOU ARE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME!



Where'd you read this Tom?

 

 

The Stardock Magazine email Don. 

on Feb 20, 2019

don5318

Quoting LightStar,

PLEASE DO NOT KILL WINDOWBLINDS! I JUST READ THE LATEST STARDOCK MAGAZINE AND YOU ARE SCARING THE HELL OUT OF ME!



Where'd you read this Tom?

 

However, the above list has some notable exceptions that we will want to hear from you about:
1.  
WindowBlinds - Skinning the Windows GUI remains a niche love for some, but in the age of high-DPI displays, we are seeing less interest in it.
2.  
IconPackager - Similarly, very few people change their icons these days.
3.  
WindowFX - This utility adds a bunch of cool UX features to windows, but again, people are spending less and less time outside of an app.
These programs work fine on Windows 10, but you can probably imagine the specialized engineering talent required to work on these, versus the actual size of the market for them.
on Feb 20, 2019

I use maybe 4 of these programs. What I would like to have to justify for example OD subscription for yet another year.

- fix WB bugs, although I'm rarely affected. At the moment the continuos update prompt (if I reinstall I can't install again because of licensing?)

- just fix the one bug affecting my Object bar (mouse activation is buggy) that was working perfectly in W10 before "fixing" the installer after certificate expiry (I even bought it again to be able to install it on top of the old installation, then it started to have that issue.)

on Feb 20, 2019

ALMonty


1.  
WindowBlinds - Skinning the Windows GUI remains a niche love for some, but in the age of high-DPI displays, we are seeing less interest in it.
2.  
IconPackager - Similarly, very few people change their icons these days.
3.  
WindowFX - This utility adds a bunch of cool UX features to windows, but again, people are spending less and less time outside of an app.

Yes this is what is in the newsletter.

Also my take.

From all the threads about it I would have to say no. Another one asked about often is SkinStudio for making a WindowBlind. Hasn't been updated for years and my guess it never will. Would be nice to end all the asking if Stardock would just say it is what it is no future updates.

 

Now it appears WindowBlinds is on the block as it is now. Again from the news letter it sounds like the latest version we have now is it. Again I'm going by what it sounds like on the mews letter. Also over the past 3 nmonths or so there have been reports of things being needed to be addressed but no replies. Better yet Neil the one who did all or most of the fixing of WB hasn't been seen.

Stardock, Brad. Why don't you just say it like it is. Let the people that make Windowblinds and like Object really know your plans. No more updates or plans to continue with certain programs. Just say it.

on Feb 20, 2019

May I make a recommendation Brad? Why don't you try advertisement on the Internet more for desktop customizing products?  I can bet that if you do national TV ad's with lines like "Are you tired of the look of Windows 10, then ...", "Did you really enjoy the look of Windows 7, well then ...", etc. You would be surprised at the return for sure!